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The panic of ‘The Elites’ is just reaching a slow simmer:

Headline: Coronavirus ‘medicine’ could trigger social breakdown

Sub-headline: Jacob Wallenberg tells governments to consider economic threat from crisis

‘Jacob Wallenberg has warned governments to weigh the economic threat from coronavirus more heavily or risk depression, social unrest and a potential lost generation.’

https://www.ft.com/content/3b8ec9fe-6eb8-11ea-89df-41bea055720b

Mr. Luce after much convoluted hand-wringing over Trump’s incompetence, mendacity etc., arrives at his actual central concern: the ebbing power of the Hegemon. (The precipitous collapse, of the Neo-Liberal Swindle, is left for another political occasion.) :

The second threat is to America’s global power. The virus originated in China. But it will probably do more damage to the US. It is China, not the US, which is shipping ventilators to Europe, Africa and central Asia. China’s “face mask” diplomacy is breathtakingly opportunistic. But it meets a need.

America’s abdication of leadership is an act of self harm, which threatens to make it an object of mockery. There are no do-overs on pandemics. Mr Trump’s response to the coronavirus is worse than a crime. It is a mistake.

Mr. Luce ends with these jejune paragraphs, in the face of Trump’s moral/political nihilism, writ on a breathtaking scale!

Political Observer 

https://www.ft.com/content/6a639c58-3c69-4bc6-8ab2-c194b3d04278

P.S.What can a reader say to this Luce declaration? That the imperatives of ‘The Market’ must give way to the imperatives of The Public Good? Neo-Liberalism’s sine qua non that the ‘Wisdom of the Market’ is the singular knowledge – does the antithetical nature of the ‘Market Singularity’ and ‘The Public Good’ represent a case of Berlin’s incommensurables?

Material is going to the highest bidders, who are not necessarily those most in need. Mr Trump’s passivity reflects what he is hearing from chief executives rather than governors, who know what their hospitals lack. States are competing with each other for scarce goods. Another of America’s great strengths, its vibrant private sector, is therefore becoming a weakness.

Never has Political Melodrama, cliche and understatement been so successfully wedded? Mr. Ganesh’s opening paragraph: 

Addressing a traumatised nation, the US president fumbled. His Oval Office speech lacked command and old doubts resurfaced about his fitness for the role. Much of Washington sensed that a man elected in good times (while losing the popular vote) was out of his element in a crisis.

The video of the revered Anthony Fauchi’s almost laughter, during the Trump Press Conference, and  him covering his face, with his free hand, speaks louder than any exclamation.

Mr. Ganesh widens his melodramatic frame with the additions of political actors, Boris Johnson is not absent, but is obliquely referred to by his place holder ‘Britain’s ruling Conservatives’, followed by Neo-Liberal under siege Emmanuel Macron. 

Much of it is a nervous public’s reflexive deference to authority. In a crisis, there is no solace in the thought that one’s leaders are derelict, even if the facts invite exactly that conclusion. Note that Britain’s ruling Conservatives are also scoring well with voters. So is President Emmanuel Macron of France. Given their divergent response to the virus (in timing, if not content), all that links these governments is the fact of being governments.

What follows is Mr. Ganesh’s speculations on, and citations of Trump’s political missteps,   that fails to address the ebbing away of the credibility of The New Democrats: first Mrs. Clinton’s ‘basket of deplorables’ , then its wholesale investment in the fictional  ‘Russia-Gate’ followed by ‘UkraineGate’ , both  simply collapsed, and then were promptly forgotten. Except the clear demonstration of Joe Biden’s corruption. The purchase of sinecures for his son Hunter, lie fallow, for the political moment. 

Those years of MSNBC propaganda, and its hysterical mouthpiece Rachael Maddow, have now found a new compelling obsession, that is fact based, The Pandemic. With Carnival Barker Trump as the villain, they midwifed. The New Democrats and their ‘fake news’ has cost them dearly, yet the cognitively impaired Biden is the presumptive candidate for president. Could my selective history of the New Democrats help to explain Trump’s high ratings? Yet it is a contributing factor, that Mr. Ganesh doesn’t even allude too. There is no need for overt historical revisionism, the News Cycle is just a endless repetition of imprint and erasure.   

Political Observer

https://www.ft.com/content/296f2c82-6e86-11ea-9bca-bf503995cd6f

Title Mr. Rachman’s latest essay  ‘The Myth of Globalism Under Threat’. When all else fails melodrama! Not forgetting that Rachman’s faith in ‘Globalism’, recalls to me the long forgotten Eric Hoffer, and his book ‘The True Believer’. 

‘Globalization’ is, in fact,  Neo-Liberalism writ large. In sum , the Corporatization of the World, that puts the governance, control of the Nation State, in the hands of a Corporate Technocracy, who supplant the role once played by political office holders, to write ‘Laws’ like NAFTA, TPP, TTIP that replace, to use shorthand, Democracy with the rule of *Technocracy.
The propaganda that Mr. Rachman enunciates is that ‘Globalism’ is our ‘Radiant Future’ to borrow the title from Aleksandr Zinoviev novel. But the Social/Economic/Political Engineering of Monnet’s Cartel, the Common Market, that ‘evolved’ into to the E.U., was exposed as a complete fraud, by former Eurocrat Bernard Connolly’s ‘The Rotten Heart of Europe‘.
Add to that the stark lessons of the Greek Crisis. Not to forget Brexit, as one of the precursors of the faltering Capitalist Collectivism, know respectably as the E.U. and the pseudo-utopian ‘Globalism’.
Another way to think about this ,in fitting analogical terms, is compare this to the rise of Monotheism in answer to the a faltering Paganism, if that isn’t …

Nationalism/Paganism vs. Globalism/Monotheism could describe the outlines of a  New Paradigm? to vulgarize Thomas Kuhn.

*Note that Walter Lippmann’s ‘Liberalism’ was based on a faith that Technocrats were a check against too much Democracy! 

Political Observer

https://www.ft.com/content/644fd920-6cea-11ea-9bca-bf503995cd6f

Headline: The crushing burden on Mnuchin’s shoulders

Sub-headline: Treasury secretary enters war against Covid-19 with handicaps, but he’s all America has got

First the melodramatic headline and sub-headline, and then this bit of political kitsch:

No one has ever thought of Steven Mnuchin, the US Treasury secretary, as Hercules. But circumstances have thrust Atlas on his shoulders.

Note that Atlas was a titan, condemned to hold up the celestial heavens for eternity.

Followed by these two paragraphs, featured players in Mr. Luce’s stilted economic melodrama: Larry Summers,Tim Geithner, Hank Paulson, Ben Bernanke and Jason Furman, these players inspire zero confidence! 

The only comparable moment is the aftermath of the 2008 financial crash. “Then we had to encourage people to go out and shop and buy and boost economic activity,” said Lawrence Summers, who was Mr Obama’s senior adviser. “Today the job is to put the economy in a coma without doing harm to people so as to keep people apart. It is arguably an even bigger challenge.”

Three of the key figures in 2008 — Tim Geithner, chair of the New York Fed, Hank Paulson, the US Treasury secretary, and Ben Bernanke, chair of the US Fed — wrote a book about how to handle financial crises called First Responders. It says nothing about a pandemic. “I looked through it the other day and realised no one imagined this situation,” said Mr Furman. “Mnuchin has no road map.”

This, an example of hurried notes on the back of an envelope journalism. Mr. Luce ends his dramatic vignette, that aspires to be much more, with this bit of political fatalism.

Like it or not, America is heading into war on a disease with the Treasury secretary it has. 

Political Observer

https://www.ft.com/content/96199d62-6ae0-11ea-800d-da70cff6e4d3

My reply to Mr. Luce:

Sir, it is my distinct pleasure to unmask the apologists for the Neo-Liberal Swindle, in it various iterations, permutations. That my polemics, such as they are, bring a kind of culinary distaste to one of such eminence is my reward. Look upon the fact, that I have provided you with an outlet for your high dudgeon, as an opportunity to scold one the lesser beings, who dares to address you as an equal.
In melodramatic terms , I am an insolent chimney sweep ,and you ,the Edwardian gentleman who pass on a public street, and exchange pleasantries. 
Regards,
StephenKMackSD      

Barry Goldwater, who won his first election contest, in a Mayor’s race, based upon the lie of the infiltration of ‘gangsters’ into civic life! This is the best that Mr. Ganesh can muster? He tries to mask his ignorance of American political history, with the mere mention of Goldwater without , what to name it , selective quotation of scraps of a pseudo- pragmatic political history , that doesn’t quite find the mark? I watched as the the ‘Goldwater Cabal’ purged the ‘Liberals’ at the Cow Palace in 1964! Mr. Ganesh has a nodding acquaintance with American history, yet his gift for stylistic flourishes can’t quite mask that reality.    

Quoting Mr. Ganesh at his most Delphic is always …It fairly sings!

We are in the early stages of one of history’s periodic discontinuities in economic thought. The sharpest, perhaps, since the Opec oil crises that elevated the free-marketeers in the 1970s. Readers will suggest the crash in 2008, after which a biography of John Maynard Keynes announced the “return of the master”. Well, it was fleeting. Before long, there were fiscal retrenchments around the western world. In the US, there was the Tea Party movement, the neutering of President Barack Obama by a Republican Congress, and his successor’s raid on the administrative state. The laissez-faire right was not much less ascendant in 2017, say, than in 2007.

The ‘Welfare State’, and its vigorous Public Health component, is making a ‘comeback’ in the face of a Pandemic, in the watershed of the collapse of the bankrupt Neo-Liberal Swindle. And an utterly bankrupt Political Class: Republicans & New Democrats!

Even Vulture Capitalist and Posh Boy Romney is a ‘Socialist’, now?  He still pines after the elusive presidency! He’s a Republican Joe Biden, sans the advanced case of the predations of old age, although not withstanding an unslakable political ambition, allied to his vacuousness, in sum an iteration of Republicanism Past? While noting that Romney lacks the authentic kind of political uprightness, and integrity, of his father George Romney!   

Final question: What happened to the mythical ‘Self-Correcting Market’ Neo-Liberals?

Political Observer

https://www.ft.com/content/198135c8-6912-11ea-a3c9-1fe6fedcca75

Headline: The Political Media’s Blurred Reality

Sub-headline:How market pressures and professional hubris have undone campaign journalism

Mr. Shapiro manages to make American Politics as practiced in 2020, sing like a Pop Tune, at the bottom of the charts, of another Age. In his description of the role of the supine corporate press coverage, of the presidential politics of recent memory, the jejune manages to retain its ennui producing thrall. Now Mr. Shapiro manages to mildly scold his fellow practitioners:

The truth is that while the demand for political stories is nearly inexhaustible, the supply chain is often short of new information or insights. So the story of 2019, in particular, was a tale of hot takes and takedowns buttressed by evanescent evidence. Through it all, reporters and pundits alike blithely ignored the evidence that most Democratic voters (even in Iowa and New Hampshire) weren’t paying attention. Campaign coverage before the Iowa caucuses probably would have spread far fewer misconceptions if the political press corps had taken two-week breaks each time the news slowed down. But, of course, there was cable TV airtime to fill, relentless online deadlines to meet, and front-page real estate to grab.

But with a full cast of the corporate dullards that appear on television and the internet with numbing regularity: Mika & Joe its  dull-witted Power Couple!  He’s in Hollywood Reporter or Variety territory! Show Business is the ruling ethos of Corporate Media Empires! Recall the good old days of Henry Luce?   

Now there is the politically canny mentions of ‘political scientists John Sides and Lynn Vavreck point out in The Gamble, their academic study of that year’s election…’ and Pete Hamby’s wrote in a 2013 paper for the Shorenstein Center at Harvard, and ‘In The Boys on the Bus, Timothy Crouse’s enduring portrait of the chain-smoking reporters covering the 1972 campaign, but how indicative of Mr. Shapiro’s selective memory that Joe McGinniss’ book ‘The Selling of the President 1968’ does not qualify! 

Its not that Mr. Shapiro lacks a certain gift for gussying up the political actors of America’s Corporate Press, with some literary flourishes, garnishing that good scolding – I’m speculating that his novel is gathering dust in that bottom drawer? But the Corporate Press is just that, a servant to America’s political class and its Property Party, Gore Vidal’s trenchant characterization, with two wings the Republicans and the New Democrats. Mr. Shapiro’s ‘insights’ are of a loyal citizen of this ‘press brigade’ of  that Property Party!

Old Socialist 

https://newrepublic.com/article/156822/political-media-failure-2016-2020-elections?utm_content=buffer553bc&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=buffer

Headline: Reality Arrives to the Trump Era

Andy Divine reads Camus’ ‘The Plague’:

‘Plagues routinely start with denial. In his great novel, The Plague, Albert Camus describes a scene at the very beginning, after several rats in a town started dying identical deaths:’

‘These rats, now?’ the magistrate began. [Doctor] Rieux made a brief movement in the direction of the train, then turned back toward the exit. ‘The rats?’ he said. ‘It’s nothing.’ The only impression of that moment which, afterwards, he could recall was the passing of a railroadman with a box full of dead rats under his arm.’

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So begins Mr. Divine’s latest collection of moralizing political interventions, or just more smug  self-congratulatory chatter , or should it more rightly be called his political/moral toxicity?   

On a ‘sane post-Trump conservatism’ in the person of Boris Johnson’s new chancellor of the exchequer Rishi Sunak: 

If I were to point out a possible future for a sane post-Trump conservatism, I’d point to one Rishi Sunak. I don’t blame you for not knowing his name yet, but he recently became Boris Johnson’s chancellor of the exchequer, responsible for Britain’s finances and economy, the second most powerful figure in the British government. He’s the grandson of Indian immigrants to the U.K., went to Oxford and Stanford, and became a hedge-funder. First elected to Parliament in 2015, his handsome smile has been matched only by the perfect fit of his suits. He’s said to have a personal fortune of $250 million, helped by marrying the daughter of one of the richest men in India. A member of a thriving minority group in the U.K., he’s a Hindu, known for lavish parties on his Yorkshire estate, and called by the locals the Maharajah of the Dales. And he isn’t yet 40 years old.

Note this description of Rishi Sunak: ‘…his handsome smile has been matched only by the perfect fit of his suits.’ Sometimes we gay boys focus on the wrong things! What could that ‘sane conservatism’ mean, but another handsome, and  bespoke suited oligarch?  Andy offers this, as a former acolyte of the Iron Lady:

But what really marks him is his abandonment of Thatcherism. 

What follows is a dull witted apologetic for Toryism as ‘adaptive’: the jejune masquerading as telling insight, Mr. Divine’s calling card!

Final entry is Andy’s  shaming of The New York Times for its ‘1619 Project’. the editor ‘Jake Silverstein, and primary author, Nikole Hannah-Jones’.  Mr. Divine who gave space in the New Republic to the ‘The Bell Curve’ and has no standing to lecture The Times, on any question of the history of race/slavery. There are other actual writers who don’t carry the heavy racial baggage, that Mr. Divine carries with him, like the chains of Jacob Marley. The New York Times columnist Michelle Alexander, and her The New Jim Crow has the moral/political standing to engage in such a critical exercise! 

Old Socialist 

https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2020/03/andrew-sullivan-reality-arrives-to-the-trump-era.html

Note the headline and sub-headline of Mr. Shapiro’s essay:

The Gauzy Myth of the Sanders Campaign

If there were ever hidden armies of Democratic voters yearning for a  visionary presidential nominee, then they remain well camouflaged.

Besides the highfalutin headline, Walter Shapiro continues the long New Republic Tradition that dates from Herbert Croly, Walter Lippmann, and Walter Weyl to Martin Peretz & Michael Kinsley, Hendrik Hertzberg , Michael Kinsley, Andrew Sullivan, etc., etc.,(Not to forget the once very powerful literary editor Leon Wieseltier, now disappeared.) The record of Liberal Mendacity, in its various personages and iterations, is historically well established. But Mr. Shapiro breaks new ground with the closing paragraph of his political funeral oration for Bernie Sanders:

‘For the moment, Democratic voters deserve to take pride in what they have accomplished in the less than two weeks since South Carolina’s primary. They have, in effect, selected a nominee with a minimum of rancor and discord. While there will be bumps ahead on the road to Milwaukee, this quick, de facto victory is the best possible outcome for Democrats hoping for victory over Trump in November.’

https://newrepublic.com/article/156883/gauzy-myth-sanders-campaign

Spoken like a true New Democrat, even if Mr. Shapiro doesn’t consider himself one, he recites the cliche ridden Party Line, as if it were the end of the story, with Senile Old Joe as president! But Shapiro is aware of Biden’s obvious cognitive impairment, but offers this hyperbolic, conjectural use of history : 

What Democratic voters have created by rallying around Biden is the American equivalent of the Popular Front, which, in the 1930s, was a broad, multiparty alliance against fascism in France and other democratic countries. The exit polls from Michigan echo a sentiment found in almost all primaries—voters, by a 58-to-37 percent margin, want a candidate who can defeat Trump more than someone who agrees with them on all issues.

The New Democrats have full control of the Party Apparatus, and with the active  collaboration of Corporate Media, have, again, waged a campaign of defamation against Sanders. Shapiro offers many hypothetical political scenarios, to add an ersatz depth to his essay. His essay reads like what it is, an apologetic for a bankrupt Centrism, made up of Neo-Liberals and Neo-Conservative fellow travelers.

Old Socialist     

Headline: Coronavirus and the comeback of the administrative state

Sub-headline: Terms of political discourse have moved unmistakably in favour of government over just a few weeks

The regular reader of the ideologically inflected political myopia of Mr. Ganesh, just has to laugh, while drinking the last of her/his morning coffee, at these snippets mined from his latest essay:

…’a vindication of the state’…, …  ‘the necessity of public expertise, public infrastructure, brute public coercion.’…

And then this ludicrous disclaimer. The ‘as if’ of this sentence is that somehow Mr. Ganesh isn’t a ‘churlish’ Neo-Liberal, not quite of the Randian variety, but nonetheless a member of  Blairite coterie.        

Only a churl or an ideologue, their Ayn Rand novels frayed through overuse, could pretend any one of these shocks was amenable to a market solution.

Perhaps Mr. Ganesh has missed this Ben Jackson’s  essay in The Historical Journal ,53 I (2010) At the Origins of Neo-Liberalism: The Free Economy and the Strong State, 1930–1947 ? ( https://bit.ly/2wQjBwR) ? In his essay Mr. Jackson makes the case , as conceived by Neo-Liberals, to protect the Free Market as the political/economic/moral singularity, that uses state power to exact conformity.  In that regard both the Welfare State and the Neo-Liberal State share a commonality. The Welfare State acts in the interest of the whole of the citizens, while the Neo-Liberal State acts in the perceived interests of The Market.

Mr. Ganesh use of the Randian Ideologues, to presents himself as the rhetorical voice of political reason, the antithesis of the ‘churlish’ voices of the ‘Randians’. Yet the reason d’etre of Neo-Liberalism, in an American context, The Clinton’s and the whole of the New Democratic phalanx, and their ‘Reform Agenda’ : 

The Personal Responsibility and Work Opportunity Reconciliation Act of 1996 

The Violent Crime Control and Law Enforcement Act of 1994, H.R. 3355, Pub.L. 103–322 

The Defense of Marriage Act (DOMA) 

The Gramm–Leach–Bliley Act, also known as the Financial Services Modernization Act of 1999

The above ‘reforms ‘ are Neo-Liberal reforms, at there most draconian, in sum’ a Reaganite Agenda. But note in this paragraph Ganesh describes ’tilt in the balance between the public and private realms’ 

In all likelihood, coronavirus will bring about a similar tilt in the balance between the public and private realms. The terms of political discourse have moved unmistakably in favour of government over just a few weeks. We are living through a reputational comeback for what conservatives have disdained as the “administrative state”.

Should Mr. Ganesh consulted the Neo-Conservative Cassandra Francis Fukuyama’s  2013 essay? 

Headline: The Decay of American Political Institutions

Sub-headline: We have a problem, but we can’t see it clearly because our focus too often discounts history.

Many political institutions in the United States are decaying. This is not the same thing as the broader phenomenon of societal or civilization decline, which has become a highly politicized topic in the discourse about America. Political decay in this instance simply means that a specific political process—sometimes an individual government agency—has become dysfunctional. This is the result of intellectual rigidity and the growing power of entrenched political actors that prevent reform and rebalancing. This doesn’t mean that America is set on a permanent course of decline, or that its power relative to other countries will necessarily diminish. Institutional reform is, however, an extremely difficult thing to bring about, and there is no guarantee that it can be accomplished without a major disruption of the political order. So while decay is not the same as decline, neither are the two discussions unrelated.

There are many diagnoses of America’s current woes. In my view, there is no single “silver bullet” cause of institutional decay, or of the more expansive notion of decline. In general, however, the historical context of American political development is all too often given short shrift in much analysis. If we look more closely at American history as compared to that of other liberal democracies, we notice three key structural characteristics of American political culture that, however they developed and however effective they have been in the past, have become problematic in the present.

The Decay of American Political Institutions

The cast of characters, in Ganesh’s dramatic political meander is large, one might call it bloated, but focus on the pitch made on behalf of Garett Jones’ ‘cheeky’ new book 10% Less Democracy. The whole title gives the game away ‘10% Less Democracy: Why You Should Trust Elites a Little More and the Masses a Little Less’.  Walter Lippmann, the good, grey liberal prophet of The American Century, placed his faith in Technocrats, a cadre of experts, that could manage the state, and protect against too much democracy. Yet they managed the Cold War, and two disastrous wars, in Korea and Vietnam. Can Trump, and his ever-changing sets of ‘managers’, perform better than that generation of such managers?

Political Observer

https://www.ft.com/content/22f51a26-6385-11ea-b3f3-fe4680ea68b5

Mr. Luce’s almost prophetic gifts are demonstrated, in these two paragraphs of his latest essay:

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Joe Biden’s victories in at least four of the six states that voted in this “mini-Super Tuesday’ — four of which Mr Sanders had won in 2016 against Hillary Clinton — puts the former vice-president into an almost prohibitive lead.

Next week’s delegate-rich Florida primary could put him beyond reach. The real question is how long before Mr Sanders bows to the inevitable, and on what terms. On that fraught negotiation — Mr Sanders’ price for endorsing Mr Biden — will hang the unity, or disunity, of the Democratic party.

And then there is this:

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There is no evidence Mr Biden is suffering from anything other than ageing combined with a life-long stutter. To minimise the opportunities for gaffes — or “Bidenisms” — his aides have sharply curtailed his public addresses to a few minutes. 

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In the Sunday Times, another Biden Apologist, Niall Ferguson: 

Headline: Sleepy Joe Biden has given Donald Trump a wake-up call

Sub-headline: Despite his senior moments, the comeback codger has a real shot

I know Joe Biden. Not well, but well enough to have had a good chat when we ran into one another at the Irish embassy in Washington on St Patrick’s Day last year. I must also confess to rather liking Biden. In 2015 I argued that he would win if he ran the next year. He would certainly have been a more engaging candidate than Hillary Clinton, especially in those key states — Michigan, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin — that carried Donald Trump to the White House.

A veteran professional politician of the homely, Irish-American, middle-class, press-the-flesh variety, Biden overcame personal tragedy (the 1972 car accident that killed his first wife and daughter and seriously injured his two sons) to become the reassuringly conventional vice-president to Barack Obama — not only the first black president but just 47 when elected. Because, folks, Biden is exactly what central casting used to think a US president should look like.

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https://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/comment/sleepy-joe-biden-has-given-donald-trump-a-wake-up-call-h65l7x7sq

Mr. Luce, like his Neo-Liberal fellow travelers , can’t  face the fact that ‘The Chosen One’ Biden has an actual cognitive deficit. But in what he conceives to be a compelling argument, masked by Biden’s ‘stutter’ , or just his ‘sleepiness’? , the Corona Virus Crisis  offers a weak kind of political opportunity, to deflect from the glaringly obvious! Undaunted, Mr. Luce political speculation, carefully embroidered as it might be, reads as just that!    

Let me speculate about a political scenario : what happens when candidate Biden , in a debate with Trump, experiences the confusion of a man, unable to articulate a rational argument, to one of Trump’s challenges? Or, could this moment occur in a debate between Sanders and Biden? when the viewers will see, with stunning clarity, the cognitive impairment of Biden? The current mythology is that Biden overcame a stutter, and these lapses are just a nagging re-occurrence. Yet there is video evidence that renders this claim dubious, to say the least.

Like a contemporary Tiresias , Mr. Luce ends his defense of Biden:

All of which puts a very different gloss to the customary “stakes are high” election clichés. Welcome to a presidential campaign about the candidates’ sanity. Welcome also to politics in a time of contagion.

Political Observer

https://www.ft.com/content/8851c8f2-62fd-11ea-a6cd-df28cc3c6a68